Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Commuting
Reload this Page >

Coldest temperatures without face covering?

Search
Notices
Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

Coldest temperatures without face covering?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-09-10 | 02:40 PM
  #26  
idcruiserman's Avatar
Mmmmm potatoes
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,921
Likes: 0
From: Idaho
I just wear a skull cap or cover my ears. I've used a balaclava once and couldn't stand it. It gets too hot and fogs up my glasses.
idcruiserman is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 02:52 PM
  #27  
chipcom's Avatar
Infamous Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 24,360
Likes: 6
From: Ohio

Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, Fuji World, 80ish Bianchi

under 20F early in the season, but as the winter wears on my threshold drops into the single digits
__________________
"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
chipcom is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 03:24 PM
  #28  
Glynis27's Avatar
Spinning @ 33 RPM
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 747
Likes: 3
From: NE Ohio

Bikes: '89 Fuji Saratoga, '97 Schwinn Mesa SS, '07 Felt F1X, '10 Transition TransAM, '11 Soma Analog SS

Originally Posted by chipcom
under 20F early in the season, but as the winter wears on my threshold drops into the single digits
Ditto.
My beard is thicker by then end of winter too, so that helps.
Glynis27 is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 03:46 PM
  #29  
xtrajack's Avatar
xtrajack
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,058
Likes: 0
From: Maine

Bikes: Kona fire mountain/xtracycle,Univega landrover fs,Nishiki custom sport Ross professional super gran tour Schwinn Mesa (future Xtracycle donor bike)

Originally Posted by PaulH
I've found that face covering is only needed below 0 F. Growing up in New England, nobody had heard of a balaclava, and we all did fine.

Paul
Yeah, what he said. I own a balaclava, got it last year when I was gearing up for the winter commute. I still haven't used it. I have ridden at 0 F with only a neck gaiter and 180's earmuffs.
As a disclaimer, my commute is only six miles one way.
xtrajack is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 06:29 PM
  #30  
electrik's Avatar
Single-serving poster
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,098
Likes: 3
From: Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted by RedWhiteandRed
You do not have to worry about frostbite.
Yeah, frostbite is a serious condition but occurs at lower temps. At combined temperatures lower than -20C and 20km/h winds frostbite on any exposed skin is ensured in a healthy adult in about 30 minutes. So anytime you're on a bicycle at -20C you are at risk of frostbite on any exposed skin and that is if the wind is dead calm, reduce that time if there is a wind blowing.

There are other complications such as chilblains, which I mentioned. These arise from chronic exposure of skin to lower temperatures though - but can contribute/complicate your proneness of getting frostbite.

Everybody is sensitive to different levels of cold, elderly can get hypothermia at room temperature. So take care!
electrik is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 06:36 PM
  #31  
daredevil's Avatar
cyclepath
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,550
Likes: 1
From: "The Last Best Place"

Bikes: 2005 Trek Pilot 5.0, 2001 Specialized Sirrus Pro, Kona Lava Dome, Raleigh hardtail converted to commuter, 87 Takara steel road bike, 2008 Trek Soho

Anybody mentioned this yet?


Slather this on and you're good to go. I'll go to single digits before worrying too much about more face covering. I'm typically only out for about 40 minutes though.
__________________
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Without music, life would be a mistake."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
daredevil is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 06:38 PM
  #32  
electrik's Avatar
Single-serving poster
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,098
Likes: 3
From: Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted by daredevil
Anybody mentioned this yet?
I think i did... there is a military study done in finland which finds zero thermal benefit to such products.

edit: unless you meant as a moisturizer?

Last edited by electrik; 02-09-10 at 06:41 PM.
electrik is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 06:44 PM
  #33  
daredevil's Avatar
cyclepath
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,550
Likes: 1
From: "The Last Best Place"

Bikes: 2005 Trek Pilot 5.0, 2001 Specialized Sirrus Pro, Kona Lava Dome, Raleigh hardtail converted to commuter, 87 Takara steel road bike, 2008 Trek Soho

Originally Posted by electrik
I think i did... there is a military study done in finland which finds zero thermal benefit to such products.

edit: unless you meant as a moisturizer?
No kidding? Lucky I've been dodging the frostbite then eh?
__________________
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Without music, life would be a mistake."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
daredevil is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 06:50 PM
  #34  
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 8,701
Likes: 2,506
From: Mississauga/Toronto, Ontario canada

Bikes: I have 3 singlespeed/fixed gear bikes

I wear a beanie which is large enough to come over my ears until about -1C ... if it's colder then that I put on a thin balaclava. I also have a thicker balaclava for very cold conditions. I don't cover my mouth or nose until about -15C and colder. I also use a bit of vaseline on my nose and face in extremly cold temps. I also don't use any goggels but instead I just use clear safety glasses when it's very cold.
wolfchild is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 07:28 PM
  #35  
electrik's Avatar
Single-serving poster
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,098
Likes: 3
From: Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted by daredevil
No kidding? Lucky I've been dodging the frostbite then eh?
Not sure if you're being sarcastic...? i have no idea which conditions you use this cream for.
electrik is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 07:34 PM
  #36  
chipcom's Avatar
Infamous Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 24,360
Likes: 6
From: Ohio

Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, Fuji World, 80ish Bianchi

Originally Posted by daredevil
No kidding? Lucky I've been dodging the frostbite then eh?
oh, I always assumed it was frostbite that made your face look that...er...reptilian.
__________________
"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

Last edited by chipcom; 02-09-10 at 07:54 PM.
chipcom is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 09:07 PM
  #37  
daredevil's Avatar
cyclepath
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,550
Likes: 1
From: "The Last Best Place"

Bikes: 2005 Trek Pilot 5.0, 2001 Specialized Sirrus Pro, Kona Lava Dome, Raleigh hardtail converted to commuter, 87 Takara steel road bike, 2008 Trek Soho

Originally Posted by electrik
Not sure if you're being sarcastic...? i have no idea which conditions you use this cream for.
not being sarcastic, just feeling a little silly that that was doing nothing but moisturizing. It has use as a sunblock too, is it effective in that regard I wonder? As far as my conditions, as I said in my post, I'll go to single digits with nothing on the face but only for about 40 minutes. Wind chill temps on descents are anybody's guess. I guess that's not harsh enough conditions for frost bite.

I do have the softest cheeks in the commuter forum though I bet, reptilian looking or not!

Oh and, somebody forgot to tell them...

https://2010winterolympicsvancouver.c...screen-and.cfm

From that: A two-year clinical study by the Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine concluded that Dermatone protects exposed skin two times longer against frostbite than any other product tested. Winter sports enthusiasts have been saving their skin for years from windburn, frostbite and sunburn with Dermatone's cold weather protection products.
__________________
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Without music, life would be a mistake."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche

Last edited by daredevil; 02-09-10 at 09:18 PM.
daredevil is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 09:47 PM
  #38  
bugly64's Avatar
Share the road.
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,256
Likes: 45
From: Marysville, CA

Bikes: 1992 Rocky Mountain Fusion, Yuba Mundo, Specialized Venge

I rode to work without my balaclava and the temperature was -2 deg F. I didn't feel it too much because I had my flemsy mtb gloves, so my hands were killing me.
bugly64 is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 09:58 PM
  #39  
cyclokitty's Avatar
Not safe for work
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,123
Likes: 8
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Bikes: KHS Town and Country 100 & Jamis Durango Femme 1.0

I use my neoprene face mask when the temp is below 0 Celsius. I tend to have to slide the mask on and off if it's not windy. Otherwise I start sweating. I notice the mask is best if it -5 Celsius and colder or if it's windy outside.
cyclokitty is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 10:13 PM
  #40  
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 641
Likes: 0
From: PDX

Bikes: Trek 1200, Kona Honky Inc, PX Stealth

I went 10 miles in 30 degree weather this morning. Not too bad. As long as my ears, fingers and toes stay warm Im usually pretty comfortable. If its super dry and in the 20s or lower then I make sure to cover up. The dry air will just kill your skin.
pityr is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 10:27 PM
  #41  
electrik's Avatar
Single-serving poster
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,098
Likes: 3
From: Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted by daredevil
not being sarcastic, just feeling a little silly that that was doing nothing but moisturizing. It has use as a sunblock too, is it effective in that regard I wonder? As far as my conditions, as I said in my post, I'll go to single digits with nothing on the face but only for about 40 minutes. Wind chill temps on descents are anybody's guess. I guess that's not harsh enough conditions for frost bite.

I do have the softest cheeks in the commuter forum though I bet, reptilian looking or not!

Oh and, somebody forgot to tell them...

https://2010winterolympicsvancouver.c...screen-and.cfm

From that: A two-year clinical study by the Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine concluded that Dermatone protects exposed skin two times longer against frostbite than any other product tested. Winter sports enthusiasts have been saving their skin for years from windburn, frostbite and sunburn with Dermatone's cold weather protection products.
Hah, some unbiased reporting there! Double zero protection is still zero, do they give numbers? I think that army study must have been a different study... because that certainly wasn't the conclusion of the Finnish one. I have faith in the argument that fleece fabric provides better insulation than a layer of cream if only because the cream conducts heat much faster than fleece. That study I posted also concluded that wearing a hood provided a lot more warmth than any balaclava they tested... doesn't help cyclists much though since hoods + riding in traffic = bad.
electrik is offline  
Reply
Old 02-09-10 | 11:15 PM
  #42  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
From: Somerville, MA
This winter I've gone as low as the single digits (with a wind chill well into the negatives) without covering my face. I always cover my ears though.
bmt074 is offline  
Reply
Old 02-10-10 | 05:02 AM
  #43  
daredevil's Avatar
cyclepath
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,550
Likes: 1
From: "The Last Best Place"

Bikes: 2005 Trek Pilot 5.0, 2001 Specialized Sirrus Pro, Kona Lava Dome, Raleigh hardtail converted to commuter, 87 Takara steel road bike, 2008 Trek Soho

Originally Posted by electrik
Hah, some unbiased reporting there!
Oh yes I am familiar with marketing. They mention better than "any other product tested" but don't tell us what those products are.
__________________
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Without music, life would be a mistake."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
daredevil is offline  
Reply
Old 02-10-10 | 07:23 AM
  #44  
thdave's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,242
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by electrik
Get another one.

Even at 60F you can get chilblains after repeated exposure. Don't use vaseline to stay warm either, it's just placebo. Might help with moisture

10. Chilblains


Most people don't know they have it.
At 60F? I don't buy that, unless they have a circulation problem.

200 years ago people were outside all the time in all sorts of weather. Frostbite is the issue.

I think Vasoline helps. My face feels warmer (even though it might not be) and it doesn't dry out on a cold ride, which is key. Moisture is important, imo. Football players, runners, skiiers, and others wear it.

I wear my balaclava, which is thin, at temps below ~35F. I can put it over my mouth (to get warm) or below it. I also wear a skull cap over it if it gets below 15 or 20, as it did on Monday. I have a thicker balaclava, but I haven't got that out in a while.

I advise getting another one, and note that a thin one like this works great ( I own it).
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...1_10000_201527
thdave is offline  
Reply
Old 02-10-10 | 08:02 PM
  #45  
Caspar_s's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 530
Likes: 0
From: Burlington, ON

Bikes: Giant Tcx1

I think time involved and individual characteristics play a big role as well. This year I've gone down to 0F without anything but my beard. I can't remember the last time I have worn a scarf. My commute is short though - 20mins to half an hour. I am also not affected too much by cold. Walk around at work outside in just a t-shirt.
Caspar_s is offline  
Reply
Old 02-10-10 | 08:53 PM
  #46  
electrik's Avatar
Single-serving poster
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,098
Likes: 3
From: Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted by thdave
At 60F? I don't buy that, unless they have a circulation problem.

200 years ago people were outside all the time in all sorts of weather. Frostbite is the issue.
Well, it is going to vary on a bunch of factors including exposure length and number of exposures... but apparently it is possible according to the smart people at Princeton university.
electrik is offline  
Reply
Old 02-12-10 | 10:46 AM
  #47  
EKW in DC's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,053
Likes: 0
From: Alexandria, VA

Bikes: Trek 830 Mountain Track Drop bar conversion

I don't even own a balaclava, though I considered purchasing one for this winter's commuting. I've ridden to work here in the DC area with temps in the upper teens and been OK. All I had on my head besides my helmet was a little fleece ear wrap thingy and my beard. I suppose the beard helps a lot. Might still grab a balaclava at some point, just haven't really needed it yet. Gloves and hands, that's a different story - a pair of gloves comes in real handy when it gets much below 35 or so.
EKW in DC is offline  
Reply
Old 02-12-10 | 12:35 PM
  #48  
TheLifeOfBryan's Avatar
down in the drops
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
From: Wilmington, NC

Bikes: Miele Doral, Bianchi Boardwalk, Cannondale R300

35°F is my cutoff point. I wear a thin one, and even that I have to pull down when I stop. My ears, however, need to be covered below 50°F or else they end up feeling like they've been punched after a few miles.
TheLifeOfBryan is offline  
Reply
Old 02-12-10 | 01:44 PM
  #49  
apricissimus's Avatar
L T X B O M P F A N S R
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,334
Likes: 5
From: Malden, MA

Bikes: Bianchi Volpe, Bianchi San Jose, Redline 925

For me personally, I cover my ears below about 40ºF, and I cover my face below 10ºF. But it depends on what you're used to.
apricissimus is offline  
Reply
Old 02-12-10 | 04:51 PM
  #50  
no motor?'s Avatar
Unlisted member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,192
Likes: 435
From: Chicagoland

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock

Originally Posted by apricissimus
For me personally, I cover my ears below about 40ºF, and I cover my face below 10ºF. But it depends on what you're used to.
I've got a thin balaclava I use below about 45. It's one that can be used as a hat or balaclava, and I usually use it as the balaclava because it's more comfortable that way and I know I'd feel silly riding around with a cold face and face part under the helmet.
no motor? is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mstateglfr
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)
9
11-10-16 02:12 PM
inCOGneto
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
78
02-06-15 12:02 AM
ParkingTheBus
Commuting
48
11-21-14 09:44 PM
jppe
Fifty Plus (50+)
38
11-14-13 10:15 AM
no1mad
Commuting
21
10-12-10 01:59 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.