Originally Posted by Night Tiger

So Aelle straight gauge, then? If the tubing is Columbus, that seems about right. Some very nice frames were built with Aelle. Since we're on the subject, here's something that came to mind. If my Cilo was built with Aelle (factory gold transfer, long "A") and Gipiemme dropouts/ends, I assume around 1984 going by the Shimano 600 6207 group, fastback stays and the semi sloping fork crown, but it takes a 26.2 post, would it be the butted version of Aelle then, evidenced by the thicker seat tube top section? I have heard those tubesets came with a red background to the Columbus transfer. Here's a pic:Attachment 140292