Originally Posted by
ultraman6970
Anybody who knows a little bit wont get an expensive frame with 105. Thats just nuts. As TJ mentioned, they know who are they selling the bikes at, besides... Probably the margin for them is pretty high also... U can lie to somebody with money who has no idea that way because somebody who knows will go for the frame and get the stuff somewhere else or simply more the parts over.
A pinarello, a colnago or even a ridley high end models built with 105 is just heresy!!! Even with ultegra IT's a SIN!

personally i'd never build an italian rig with japanese parts, not that 105 isn't perfectly functional, just keeping with the whole italian thing... you know
on another note, i've been a shimano rider for as long as i can remember, and recently built up the colnago in my signature with full campy record 10s. i'm very very very impressed with campy, i love it in fact.
the only commentary i have is that the brakes feel way more powerful than my ultegras (which is contrary to what i've read in the past about the brake comparison between campy and shimano, though i haven't yet tried the dura ace brakes, mind you these are 6600, not 6700). And the feel of the actual shifting, the click of the shifters, i can only compare campy vs. shimano as bone breaking vs. knuckle cracking. way more distinct. but the shifting is flawless.
trimming the front derailleur on the campy is much much much better than shimano, 5 positions as opposed to 1, i have not had a problem with cross chaining when i feel the need to do so.
if my cassette wasn't a 13-29 i probably wouldnt even notice the transition from one cassette cog to the next, but up in the lower gears the transition is very noticeable when you're riding a 13-29 + long cage derailleur.
(OP, sorry to turn your thread into a campy review)
keep on keepin on!