Mods, have you noticed the fail threads in the other subforums? Numbskull of the day in c+v, etc? They are all fine places to hang around making fun of stupid ****, and everyone has a good time. I therefore suggest to you that the problems in the ssfg fail thread comes not from the inherent nature of fail threads, but from the users of this forum. Someone might then say on this basis the real fail here is on the part of the users. But I think that in this case it is you, the bikeforums mods, who have truly failed.