Originally Posted by
DaveSSS
Thanks for your rudeness. Feel better now? Did I say I was in the business of fitting pro riders?
KOP is fine as a starting point, but nothing more. I'm not far off it - no more than 2cm back, but I also have a very short torso. Longer torsos are more common and a longer torso usually requires even more setback.
Find me a picture of a pro bike, particularly a euro pro, using a nonsetback post. Someone else tried a couple of months ago and failed. They found some straight posts, but the seat rail clamps were all set back. A true zero setback post has the center of the seatrail clamp over the centerline of the seat tube. It's far more common is see setback posts and the saddle slammed all the way back. If the frame brand happens to have a 72.5-73 degree STA, it's more likely that you might find an occasional nonsetback post, with the saddle all the way back.
Wasn't rude but you always talk about pros this and pros that... however you don't seem to have ANY experience fitting a pro (let me know if I'm wrong but I do believe they tend to ride frames a size or two small ... maybe this explains why they all have set back posts....). I don't even necessarily disagree with you or your fit but you make blanket statements so easily with no apparent credentials that it's important people know there are many opinions on the topic. I agree not many (if any) pros ride with a zero setback post but not many (if any) ride with only 2-3 inches of drop like some of the board members (myself included). Maybe I should get a -30 stem to get more pro?
I do hope to make it to CO at some point so we can have this discussion the proper way over a pint and a burger
