ddez, you are not correcting me. Read what I wrote. I did not mention the 60cm bicycle. I mentioned the 50cm LHT. I don't know about the newer Trek 520's, I haven't checked. I am talking about my 520 in a 19" frame. It has a 72.7 degree seat tube angle. According to Surly, their 50cm frame has a 74 degree seat tube angle. http://surlybikes.com/frames/long_haul_trucker_frame/ You can disagree with me as much as you want, but the facts are there. The larger LHT's have a seat tube angle between 73 and 72 degrees. The smallest LHT frame has a seat tube angle of 75 degrees. They are not the same.

If you can find information about the LHT's seat tube angle that says they are the same with the small frames as with the taller frames, I would like to see it. I would have to wonder why Surly says otherwise though.

I think the LHT is a great bike in the larger sizes. I don't like it in my size.