Originally Posted by
maym036
I asked for more pictures and the Seller send me over 20 pictures of the bike. Not one of these showed the scratches on the top tube shown in picture n°3.
If then I get the bike and discover these scratches, of course I negotiate. Or I get money back, or I send the frame back. It is obvious that the seller was hiding
somthing if he sends so many pictures but none of it shows the worst and most obvious part of the bike! Don`t you think Citoyen du Monde.
As for the Paint, I am no expert but I asked him if it is the original Paint from Cinelli. He said yes. Sorry if I am not an expert like you are and see this on the pictures.
I would also be ok with this fact, but the part with the scratches not mentioned or documented really makes me flip out.
I think that you are right to be angry with the seller. The seller has the item and can inspect it and inform the buyer as to condition. In general, a buyer does not have the ability to inspect an item and determine its condition. The buyer has to rely on the seller to accurately describe the condition of the item. Note that in general, a seller has a legal obligation to disclose defects that the seller is aware of. If the seller didn't disclose the paint defects on the top tube, he's a dishonest SOB. If the seller deliberately took pictures so as not to disclose the scratches in the paint on the top tube, he's probably guilty of fraud. In this case, the seller should pay for shipping both ways if the buyer's description of events is accurate.