I wasn't saying the thread should be deleted, I'm sure it will bring about an entertaining conversation no matter what. For what it's worth, I don't know if it has been posted in the mountain bike forum or not, but I have seen it in a few of the others. I really like cf, and I have a cf road bike, but unless you are doing some super competitive racing and can really afford it, I would keep it off the mtn bike. That's just my personal preference though, not a comment as to the actual validity of the material.