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Old 07-19-10 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gus6464
Nothing but the new Force is almost identical to it except for zero loss on the rear for half the cost. Also Force has a BB30 crank option whereas Red does not and BB30 is increasing in popularity with bike manufacturers.

Too much incorrect, even for BF.
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