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Old 07-19-10 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gus6464
So by going with Red shifters and rest Force would you say that you will have a setup just as good as full Red if not better because you no longer have the insanely flexy FD that comes with Red? From a performance standpoint is Red worth twice the price of Force?
It's hard for me to answer because the pricing structure I pay.

IMHO - I really like some of the Force gear. I would definitely take Force crank over Rival - having put a ton of miles on both. most of the other parts are close enough in price between Rival and Force that you just choose the one you want. Brakes - I used to hate when people saved $ on the brakes thinking no one would notice, but I do recommend to people that they buy Rival. That said tonight I noticed the flex in my Rival calipers and thought - "hey...maybe I should try the redesign in Red or Force".....

Saying that you notice a difference in performance.....kind of esoteric. All three groups are very nice. The Red RD is absolutely crazy light and reactive but for the $$ - Force. FD - I have never cared. Crisp shifts = good. I have never run into a FD in any "decent" group that hasn't performed as needed. Pick the weight and look you want for the $$.

Meh...I guess I am rambling now.

This is what I spec for my clients:

Shifters: Red
RD: Force
FD: Force/Rival
Cassette: 1070 (Rival/Force)
Crank: 2010 Force
BB: Truvativ Steel BB
Brake Calipers: Rival
Chain: KMC DX10
Cables: Yokozuna Reaction
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