Chris' Allez was a little more than dented. Nobody landed on it, it just tumbled riderless down the road. I'm just saying, a bunch of bikes go into a huge pileup, the carbon bike is not necessarily going to be the one to be destroyed.
I've been in way more crashes than I would like to admit, but the only frame damage I've ever had was to an aluminum frame. An Allez at that...
You're not getting it...it wasn't the tumbling riderless down the road that caused that damage...it was the event that CAUSED it to go tumbling riderless down the road, i.e. the initial T-bone into a relatively stationary object (probably you).
I'm just saying that your premise is flawed when comparing the damage amongst the bikes in the pileup. They all didn't have the same impact loading.
Also...remember, all you have to do to render a CF frame unusable is to cause it to crack...and that type of damage can easily be caused by events that would merely dent a frame made of a metallic material.
Let's put it this way...it's easier to "total" a CF frame (especially "weight weenie-ish) frames than metallic frames...not to mention the "notch sensitivity" (i.e. scratches turning into crack/failure sites) of CF construction.
I find it kind of amusing that you seem to have the opposite opinion on CF vs. Al handlebars
