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Old 08-20-10 | 03:16 PM
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fuji86
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Bikes: 1986 Fuji Allegro 12 Spd; 2015 Bianchi Kuma 27.2 24 Spd; 1997 Fuji MX-200 21 Spd; 2010 Vilano SS/FG 46/16

Originally Posted by dsh
I never implied that you didn't accomplish anything with your attempts to "balance" the wheel.

What I was trying to point out was the comical inconsistency of your stance when it comes to barely-discernible variations in bicycle performance. To wit: you claim you notice when a radially/laterally true wheels is off balance by a few grams, and at the same time argue that a straight gauge hi-ten frame and a chromoly frame are not differentiable to the rider.
Originally Posted by ichitz
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lol at not being able to tell difference btwn hi-ten and chrmo frame in terms of ride feel, and not being able to tell difference btwn foot retention or not in cycling (yes, this topic again) but OCD on grams of wheel balance.

I guess i should stop patching tubes. Everytime i patch a tube it completely throws off my wheel balance and i get really frustrated. Then I have to re-file my rims every night coz skidzz are taking away my tire weight at random locations!!
This is too rich ? The two of you trying to draw a parallel to the 2 subjects. The difference between discerning 2 coated/painted steels at a molecular level vs enough weight to throw off the balance of a wheel at a given point in it's circumference. And disbelieving that one is more discernable than the other ? Some rely on gauges, others rely on sensory nerve endings in their fingers and yet others might be able to use the wheels, high air pressures and torsionally stiff frames to feel the road or even imperfections in the components to discern imbalances ? But since you are an expert on steel, I bet I could hand either of you two a golf club, one with a head made of 431 stainless steel and the other 17-4 stainless steel and neither of you could tell me which was which after hitting a golf ball with both ? That's basically what you're trying to tell me you can discern hi ten from chromoly ? That a pound or two distributed over an object like a bike is discernable ? And this you want to compare to several grams of weight that imbalance a wheel ?

What I find even more comical is that because imbalance is termed "hop" (from 65'ers post) in the radial truing of a wheel it's discernable, yet a weight difference that has essentially the same effect is indiscernable ?

As for refiling the rims after every patch ? That makes no sense, you know what caused the imbalance, it's a patched tube. If it bugs you that much, fix the problem and replace the tube with one that doesn't have a patch. But if you took the time to isolate that the imbalance is in the rim, why not fix that problem there ? Somehow you have an issue with cause and effect again here ? And suggest something that doesn't make any sense. Since we're going there, patches are a temporary solution, cheaper and more convenient. I think anyone in the BF including yourself would much rather prefer to have an unpatched new tube if the choice were available at the time of the flat. Furthermore, if you also had your choice at the time of a flat, a brand new tire that hadn't been punctured and compromised is preferable too ?

They hunt in packs ?
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