thanks everyone, I did ride the flight 100 and liked it, I also liked the Madison that I rode and when I rode the Langster it wasn't my size so it was hard to tell, my friend has a hook up for KHS, he has a flight 100 that's my size, I rode it, he made a few calls and got a 2009 in white for $300+about $40 in shipping, I couldn't pass up that deal, I can't wait to get it since I've been bikeless for 3 weeks since my conversion got stolen, anyways thanks for all the help, if anyone cares I'll post some pix when I have it!