Originally Posted by
dashuaigeh
Do you know if the fishtailing and breaking chainstays was due to the fact that they were longer?
Chainstay length should not be an issue. Long stays were always common on most Touring bikes for many years and makes perfect sense - you don't want your heels to be continually kicking against full sized panniers or need to mount the bags too far aft on a rack. Perhaps the fishtailing issue on the Trek bikes was due to selection of too light weight tubing for use on a Touring bike - where you could expect a heavy load on the rear (the frameset was all Reynolds butted 531 tubing, I believe).
The broken stays on Surly Long Haul Truckers is inexcusable. Perhaps a design flaw or maybe just sloppy brazing? Surly may have resolved the issue now since it was apparently not an isolated incident. The frame I saw was replaced under warranty - the bike was nearly new - but what a disaster to have encountered when the owner was out touring along a country road when suddenly:
SNAP!