You see, this is what prejudices are all about. I never said I was right (in my original post) I only said I consider them too expensive. . I was running down my reasoning for how I ended up on a Moots and not one of the other 3 the OP was asking about, not stating a blatant fact. I know I'm weak and I hold biases and this one just happens to apply to Litespeed. I can only hope to improve as I age.