I saw a Moots road bike at a lbs yesterday, which should be strange b/c a friend who works @ moots said they do custom frames only. It was a large frame, but just looked elegant, wasn't even all built up. I guess he bought it at moots andthey are building it. People love em. I have seen many around town that are old. or maybe they aren't old people just like em so much they get used a lot.
Zinn himself makes custom ti frames too. He is a major scientist. He's at
www.zinncycles.com
talk about an innovator.