Originally Posted by
DaveSSS
I think that someone is giving you and those other crit riders poor fitting advice. If a nonsetback post is used, that alone should put you too far forward with just about any saddle.
My 0 setback puts me about 1cm behind KOPS with the saddle about a cm back from center on the rails of a Fizik Antares. I can still use my glutes in this position. My diaphram is least restricted. I can pedal much more smoothly. I've fiddled around with everything from the saddle slammed back with a set back post, to a 0 set back forward of center, and I keep coming back to where i am now.