These are *amazing* for drenching pineapple express, and also down to teens:
http://www.worldcycling.com/prodinfo...-11&variation=
Overkill outside the 40s though, absent the downpour. Hands get too sweaty to pull out of the gloves w/o inverting the finger linings... (I am hoping that if the linings do bite it, that I could just slip a smartwool liner inside the outer case and continue as usual).
I got a pair for ~$30, I am thrilled. Even full price, for the conditions I've had, I don't think I'd regret it.
(also, I have gone years/decades of being disappointed by gloves, so basically these gloves make me happier than any gloves ever have)