Originally Posted by
blamp28
I'm not understanding what you are trying to accomplish here. I am a heavy rider and ride the Shimano Disc hubs on my MTB and Tandem builds. these bike both operate at an extreme as far as spoke durability goes. The Tandem carries a 425 lb team plus packs and accessories on 50+ mile rides every weekend. The MTB is used only off road for xc racing on trails with plenty of technical features. There have been no issues whatsoever to give me concern for the NDS spokes on either bike. I have never needed to make even the smallest adjustment. I just ride them.
I'm trying to get all the ideas/input I can per building issues I'm currently working with.. that simple. Mileage varies.. ie, someone's experience and testimonials are just their own in the end. I've read and listened to a good deal of contradicting info this winter gathering build techniques. As always opines vary... as with anything.
I don't believe the butted spoke is worth the coins.. given the slight increases in stretch.. given decent tension. Some granted see it differently.
I guess one of my main motivations is a younger (way heavywt) guy I found on a ride with a rear otta wack via broken spokes. His attempt to 'get back into shape'... I later learned derailed after spoke frustrations. Now I'd be glad to offer help if this scenario comes along again.. wanting to have all my ducks in a row so to speak.. on how to maximize the durability of a rear build. So in the end I'm attempting to get it all down this snow season.
Must be.. some width flange minimum per a rear vs stability issues. Why not a 38mm flamnge width 130 spaced rear... for a symetrical build? Likely not stiff enough laterally...