As far as position on the bike it's pretty upright but not straight backed. Bars pretty much exactly level with the saddle.
Right now it feels like if I actually slide back on it so it supports my sit bones they rest right on the metal frame. That's what it feels like anyway, could the unbroken in leather really feel that harsh if I'm not putting my weight on the frame?
I'm starting to think I have really wide sit bones...
As far as the springs go they don't seem to be worth the weight penalty. I can see them helping if you totally clip a huge pothole or something. Normal riding around they don't seem to move at all.
Thanks for the help so far. Just bummed at the moment because I pretty much have to sell this saddle to afford another one if it doesn't work out.