I have an FXM mountain frame. It's great! Welds are quality and the tubes have a nice brushed finish. The geometry works for me and everything is straight. Not much else I could ask for. I bought it from them when they had a promo for $530. It was a super deal and I have no regrets. I also have a bikesdirect ti road frame as a reference. Those frames are made in Taiwan and are a notch better in quality. Welds are cleaner, the tubes are shaped, and the finish is shinier. You can do what I did. Buy a complete Ti Rival from BD ($1600) and sell all the parts. You can easily get $600 for the group and if you add up the wheels, pedals, stem, seatpost, fork, etc, you'd get close to predator's price. I think the BD frames are the best deals around for the quality they offer.