*looking at ti bikes*
im looking for a ti bike, most likely to replace my surly cross check, but maybe to go with road.

im doing my research as to what makes a good ti frame, and have researched a few domestic builders. here are my limits:

1. frame cost (including shipping) needs to be around 600.

thats pretty much it, but cost always is.

im familiar with habanero but they are still out of reach. and yes, i know about moots, lynskey, etc., but again they cost too much for me.

google has shown limited results for Predator Bike/JW Racing

https://predatorbike.com/
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ht_1237wt_1139

does anyone have any experience with this company?

any helpful information?

thanks

ps- in before caad/

Motobecane is the least expensive new Ti frame I know that is still decent quality.

I think it's more than $600 though. Check at Bikes Direct.

Otherwise, there is always Ebay or Craigslist.

sorry I think you'll be hard pressed to find a new TI frame at any level for $600 incl shipping. Habernero is the lowest cost option. Even the old performance bike TI frames that were going around about a year ago were in the $800 +/- range.

Maybe you can contact a chinese manufacturer directly -- but then you're going into hit or miss territory.

I think you will need to look for a used frame on Ebay or Craigslist. I would be fine with a used frame since Ti cleans up well with a Scotchbright pad.

I have a nice titanium HASA frame ... have you looked into one of those?

https://www.hasabike.com.tw/m.htm

And if you're from the US, this site has them:
https://cyclingdealusa.com/

We got mine from Cycling Deal here in Australia.

I have an FXM mountain frame. It's great! Welds are quality and the tubes have a nice brushed finish. The geometry works for me and everything is straight. Not much else I could ask for. I bought it from them when they had a promo for $530. It was a super deal and I have no regrets. I also have a bikesdirect ti road frame as a reference. Those frames are made in Taiwan and are a notch better in quality. Welds are cleaner, the tubes are shaped, and the finish is shinier. You can do what I did. Buy a complete Ti Rival from BD ($1600) and sell all the parts. You can easily get $600 for the group and if you add up the wheels, pedals, stem, seatpost, fork, etc, you'd get close to predator's price. I think the BD frames are the best deals around for the quality they offer.

sometimes you just need to be realistic with yourself. finding a new Ti frame of any good quality for <600 is probably asking too much.

consider a good steel frame, Ti is nice, but steel rides well too.

Just heavier and waay less expensive.


https://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum...ty-9238-2.html

I agree with above, either increase your price range a few hundred bucks or get steel.

Or else used.

I have both a steel frame AND a Habanero Ti, both are good but if you are going to be riding a lot you should just cough up the extra 300 bucks and get Ti.

If you choose new Ti you are probably best getting a Hab or BD. Maybe Lynskey has some leftovers on clearance you could check with them too.

Assuming here you've got the components, wheels, etc. already on-hand. If not, the $1595 BD Ti Rival subtracts-out to a sub $600 frame easily.

Pro Bike Kit used to sell a great Ti frame. Check their site.

You are asking for the impossible. Used maybe, but I doubt it. Wait a little longer and save up the amount you will need to purchase something within reach. Other than that buy something else you can afford instead.

I see...in your future...a Habanero Ti frame! And a part-time job!

Go used if you can. I've bought 3 used complete Ti bikes from eBay/CL in the $650-$850 range.