so once again, simple question. is this http://www.liverydesigngruppe.com/pr...x-livery-track worth 900 dollars? and is it the same TOYO as Toyo Godzilla Frameset ?

Thanks for the link, but i found that too, and that's ALL i really could find out about Livery/Toyo

When you about to spend money on something, you want to make sure it's legit, that's all.

Here is some other info i found about livery
http://velospace.org/forums/discussi...lugged-frames/

"very is ****. buy something else, please.
the people that own livery are bro ******bags that started the company to make money off of the trend.
because of this, the bikes are not good quality, and pretty much 100% of their newer stuff is just a cheap direct copy of something else "

wouldn't that bother you a bit, if you were thinking about buying something?