Ideally, I want a nice all rounder for unloaded long rides, but still can do the loaded touring. The owner of my LBS, calling loaded touring bikes "Prairie Schooners", thinks the Gunnar would provide a more "supple" ride unloaded. Also suggested looking into a 'Cross bike, as that would also provide a more spirited ride unloaded, and perform better on gravel roads. I know many on this forum have gone that route. This will be my project next winter. It will be my "Dream Bike" but my funds are not unlimited, if you know what I mean.