If you weren't so occupied trying to be a smartarse you would realize we are on the same side of the argument. A MagicShine does not cost $20. So by owning one, as well as the NiteRider Classic ($200). I think I have proven beyond any doubt that I put a priority on seeing at night. And asking about car headlight output was an attempt to get cyclists to get out of the "less is more" mindset and instead dream bigger than 1/2 watt Planet Bikes etc.

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