well son of a gun, thanks all! You know what, I think I'll keep it. I thought that might be what it was, but it wouldn't flip down against the tire... now I remember, the front wheel I had on the bike at the time was an old 27" that was so tall the tire rubbed the crown of the fork, so there's why the Flickstand woudln't work. I'm learning so much, and I have the right sized wheel on the bike now too.