I did, and I know it's not the rims, but they didn't even come with DT spokes, I figure that if it costs 100 bucks to get them rebuilt I might as well get some more bomb proof deep v's with DT spokes and in a color that I want. I was thinking Velocity wheels, i want to get the REALLY deep v's but they dont come with machined sidewalls or a flip flop that can use a freegear, and i ride a really technical route so I need a freegear. Know of anything else that might work?