Originally Posted by
Seattle Forrest
The only way to know is to go find out - participate in the route deciding process. Or, I guess, there's always making up your own answers and being satisfied with them.

No thanks, I have already seen all I need to see about CM on the 5:00 news...and unfortunately so has everyone else. I've always enjoyed your posts and you come across as a responsible person so I'll take you at your word that CM is different these days. But unfortunately the damage to the reputation of ALL cyclists has already been done and it will take a long, long time to heal. For that reason, I want nothing to do with it. Maybe CM should think abut changing it's name to separate from the past?
I do hope you have a good time and a safe ride.