Um....I think you missed the implications there,poppy...you said "MOST" of bike shops,not "most of bike shops I've been in/in my area",insinuating that this is pretty much everywhere. MOST people would realise what you meant,but not all peeps,maybe not the OP,ya know?

Actually,the entire post was advice to the OP,telling him that not everyone here would give the best advice. Granted,it was implied (pretty strongly),I was using your rant as an example. There wasn't much meat (advice) in your post,and that was my point,it was more a vent on your own frustrations than advice to him ( about the sorry service you've indured).

And the last sentance,was direct advice to the OP..."If they don't fit you properly to a bike,go elsewhere...".

I do apologise for making this point at your expense...but you made it kinda easy to do,eSPECIALLY with this reply,stating there was no advice given,it kinda proves my point. Fail yourself there