Buying first 'proper' bike (need advice)
10-08-11 | 07:17 AM
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Buying first 'proper' bike (need advice)
Hey all,
I just had my 23rd birthday and made a big decision - I was going to get back into shape.
When I was in primary school and then High school, I would cycle there and back every day (3 miles each way) and was in pretty good shape, however, now I am at University years later, and I have a big Motorcycle and it has made me become lazy over the past 7 years or so.
I decided to sell my big Bike and get myself a 'proper' bicycle to commute to Uni every day (about 6 miles there and 6 back this time). I am not fat, pretty small frame actually (5'11) and pretty skinny, but I am really out of shape. I have a really bad, old, battered MTB which my dad managed to find and I have been doing 45 minutes every morning on it (bike trainer) and really really starting to get into it, it isn't a chore any more to get up and cycle, I look forward to it and after the 45 minutes I am full of energy, which is why I need to sell my big bike, and get a real bicycle (If i keep the Motorcycle, I will stay stuck in this rut)
Sorry about all that wall of text, but I thought it would give a good back story to my situation, my fitness level etc, so here are the questions =D
1) I will get quite a nice amount from the sale of my Bike, so I would be able to afford a really nice Cycle, however I wouldn't want to go overboard just so I have some spare for different tyres (winter coming up) and accessories.
2) Road or Hybrid? I am using the terrible run down old MTB right now, and the bike I used to go to and from school was also a MTB (but a nice Raleigh one) and I can tell right now that a MTB would be way too heavy. The route is totally paved, cycle lanes along side Dual Carriageways - then into the city centre etc (UK)
3) If I buy on Ebay, I know it wont be specifically fit to me, and will probably not be in tip top condition, but is the cost worth it?
4) I am 5'11ish, so what sort of size should I be looking at?
5) I have heard three specific names of bikes being bandied around, those are: Carrera Subway, Cannondale Bad Boy & Cannondale Quick CX4, are these good first time choices? I know they are all hybrids, but (and I know it is probably because I am new) 'road' style bikes with drop down handlebars always seem for more serious riders or racers, and feel I would be going overboard (and over budget lol)
Sorry for the ranting, but I thought I should cram as much in as possible to avoid having to make multiple threads down the line.
Cheers.
I just had my 23rd birthday and made a big decision - I was going to get back into shape.
When I was in primary school and then High school, I would cycle there and back every day (3 miles each way) and was in pretty good shape, however, now I am at University years later, and I have a big Motorcycle and it has made me become lazy over the past 7 years or so.
I decided to sell my big Bike and get myself a 'proper' bicycle to commute to Uni every day (about 6 miles there and 6 back this time). I am not fat, pretty small frame actually (5'11) and pretty skinny, but I am really out of shape. I have a really bad, old, battered MTB which my dad managed to find and I have been doing 45 minutes every morning on it (bike trainer) and really really starting to get into it, it isn't a chore any more to get up and cycle, I look forward to it and after the 45 minutes I am full of energy, which is why I need to sell my big bike, and get a real bicycle (If i keep the Motorcycle, I will stay stuck in this rut)
Sorry about all that wall of text, but I thought it would give a good back story to my situation, my fitness level etc, so here are the questions =D
1) I will get quite a nice amount from the sale of my Bike, so I would be able to afford a really nice Cycle, however I wouldn't want to go overboard just so I have some spare for different tyres (winter coming up) and accessories.
2) Road or Hybrid? I am using the terrible run down old MTB right now, and the bike I used to go to and from school was also a MTB (but a nice Raleigh one) and I can tell right now that a MTB would be way too heavy. The route is totally paved, cycle lanes along side Dual Carriageways - then into the city centre etc (UK)
3) If I buy on Ebay, I know it wont be specifically fit to me, and will probably not be in tip top condition, but is the cost worth it?
4) I am 5'11ish, so what sort of size should I be looking at?
5) I have heard three specific names of bikes being bandied around, those are: Carrera Subway, Cannondale Bad Boy & Cannondale Quick CX4, are these good first time choices? I know they are all hybrids, but (and I know it is probably because I am new) 'road' style bikes with drop down handlebars always seem for more serious riders or racers, and feel I would be going overboard (and over budget lol)
Sorry for the ranting, but I thought I should cram as much in as possible to avoid having to make multiple threads down the line.
Cheers.
10-08-11 | 08:08 AM
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What kind of a mountain bike do you have now? With slick tires and few other cheap changes, old mountain bikes can be great all-around/commuter bikes. If you do the cheap changes to the existing bike, that would get you on the road and building your fitness back up. It think it might also help you in deciding what kind of new bike you wanted. Could you post some pictures of the bike you have now?
The three bikes that you mentioned are look like 29r mountain bikes --- essentially mountain bike with 700c wheels.
You didn't mention a budget, which would certainly effect the recommendations folks might make.
The three bikes that you mentioned are look like 29r mountain bikes --- essentially mountain bike with 700c wheels.
You didn't mention a budget, which would certainly effect the recommendations folks might make.
10-08-11 | 08:24 AM
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Get one that fits.
Most bike shops these days are staffed with mostly idiots, and will try to put you on a frame that is too small with 8-12" of seatpost hanging out. This is supposed to "make the bike handle easier" and "be stiffer". You and I are the same height, so depending upon leg length, etc. you'll likely want something near 58-60 cm for road and 21-23 in for mountain. It's a virtual guarantee that a shop will try to get you on a 55-56 road or 18-19 mountain bike. The penalty is that your handlebars will be too low -- unless you prefer it this way, in which case go for it.
If you find a LBS that caters to all riders, or mostly non-racing cyclists, you have a gem.
I don't like Grant, but Rivendell has a good article for proper sizing for non-racing cyclists that I agree with. To each their own.
Also - do a search. These threads pop up like bed bugs in Manhattan.
Most bike shops these days are staffed with mostly idiots, and will try to put you on a frame that is too small with 8-12" of seatpost hanging out. This is supposed to "make the bike handle easier" and "be stiffer". You and I are the same height, so depending upon leg length, etc. you'll likely want something near 58-60 cm for road and 21-23 in for mountain. It's a virtual guarantee that a shop will try to get you on a 55-56 road or 18-19 mountain bike. The penalty is that your handlebars will be too low -- unless you prefer it this way, in which case go for it.
If you find a LBS that caters to all riders, or mostly non-racing cyclists, you have a gem.
I don't like Grant, but Rivendell has a good article for proper sizing for non-racing cyclists that I agree with. To each their own.
Also - do a search. These threads pop up like bed bugs in Manhattan.
10-08-11 | 08:41 AM
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Ah well, I would say something in the 400-800£ range. What I meant was, i don't want to go spending 2 grand on a tricked out road bike lol
The MTN bike I have now is shoddy to put it nicely, it is a 'Challenge Bullet' it is the kind of bike you would see for £50 in Argos or something, my Dad just had it laying round in his shed. I would like something new, just because I have been using this with a trainer for about a month, built my way up to 45 minutes every day, and I could carry on easily, but I don't want to overdo myself. I also think it will give me something to tinker with/maintain when my big Bike is gone...as I spend a lot of my free time on my big bike right now.
Thanks for the replies so far, as i said in the original post I have read a lot of these threads, which is where I got those 3 recommendations from, but none of them seemed to be in my type of situation, most were either 3 mile commutes, or 20 mile commutes and all super dedicated and were told to pretty much go for a real road bike. Just wanted to get a feel of how I should go =)
The MTN bike I have now is shoddy to put it nicely, it is a 'Challenge Bullet' it is the kind of bike you would see for £50 in Argos or something, my Dad just had it laying round in his shed. I would like something new, just because I have been using this with a trainer for about a month, built my way up to 45 minutes every day, and I could carry on easily, but I don't want to overdo myself. I also think it will give me something to tinker with/maintain when my big Bike is gone...as I spend a lot of my free time on my big bike right now.
Thanks for the replies so far, as i said in the original post I have read a lot of these threads, which is where I got those 3 recommendations from, but none of them seemed to be in my type of situation, most were either 3 mile commutes, or 20 mile commutes and all super dedicated and were told to pretty much go for a real road bike. Just wanted to get a feel of how I should go =)
10-08-11 | 03:57 PM
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Get one that fits.
Most bike shops these days are staffed with mostly idiots, and will try to put you on a frame that is too small with 8-12" of seatpost hanging out. This is supposed to "make the bike handle easier" and "be stiffer". You and I are the same height, so depending upon leg length, etc. you'll likely want something near 58-60 cm for road and 21-23 in for mountain. It's a virtual guarantee that a shop will try to get you on a 55-56 road or 18-19 mountain bike. The penalty is that your handlebars will be too low -- unless you prefer it this way, in which case go for it.
If you find a LBS that caters to all riders, or mostly non-racing cyclists, you have a gem.
I don't like Grant, but Rivendell has a good article for proper sizing for non-racing cyclists that I agree with. To each their own.
Also - do a search. These threads pop up like bed bugs in Manhattan.
Most bike shops these days are staffed with mostly idiots, and will try to put you on a frame that is too small with 8-12" of seatpost hanging out. This is supposed to "make the bike handle easier" and "be stiffer". You and I are the same height, so depending upon leg length, etc. you'll likely want something near 58-60 cm for road and 21-23 in for mountain. It's a virtual guarantee that a shop will try to get you on a 55-56 road or 18-19 mountain bike. The penalty is that your handlebars will be too low -- unless you prefer it this way, in which case go for it.
If you find a LBS that caters to all riders, or mostly non-racing cyclists, you have a gem.
I don't like Grant, but Rivendell has a good article for proper sizing for non-racing cyclists that I agree with. To each their own.
Also - do a search. These threads pop up like bed bugs in Manhattan.
So how many shops have you visited to make a "MOST" statement like that? 3? 50? 350? 1,000? 5,000? Even that wouldn't be "most". I haven't been in "most" either,BTW,but most that I have been in want to make you happy,because they want your REPEAT business.
If they don't fit you properly to a bike,go elsewhere. Or do like this guy,vent your issues on somebody here
10-08-11 | 04:46 PM
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Hello there Oronare!
If I were you, I wouldn't overlook the road bikes. They're swift and agile. Their dropbars offer you more selections in riding postures. They can be extremely aerodynamic when riding in a more aggressive riding position, or you can sit up erect and ride them as a comfort bike. You have by far more choices in a road bike than a hybrid bike, provided than you're riding almost exclusively on paved surfaces. You also have the choice of selecting a road/touring bike that looks more like a road bike, but comes complete with fenders, splash guards, and perhaps a rack. However nonetheless, it's still a road bike.
Are you presently located within the UK?
- Slim
If I were you, I wouldn't overlook the road bikes. They're swift and agile. Their dropbars offer you more selections in riding postures. They can be extremely aerodynamic when riding in a more aggressive riding position, or you can sit up erect and ride them as a comfort bike. You have by far more choices in a road bike than a hybrid bike, provided than you're riding almost exclusively on paved surfaces. You also have the choice of selecting a road/touring bike that looks more like a road bike, but comes complete with fenders, splash guards, and perhaps a rack. However nonetheless, it's still a road bike.
Are you presently located within the UK?
- Slim
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10-08-11 | 05:43 PM
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Get one that fits.
Most bike shops these days are staffed with mostly idiots, and will try to put you on a frame that is too small with 8-12" of seatpost hanging out. This is supposed to "make the bike handle easier" and "be stiffer". You and I are the same height, so depending upon leg length, etc. you'll likely want something near 58-60 cm for road and 21-23 in for mountain. It's a virtual guarantee that a shop will try to get you on a 55-56 road or 18-19 mountain bike. The penalty is that your handlebars will be too low -- unless you prefer it this way, in which case go for it.
If you find a LBS that caters to all riders, or mostly non-racing cyclists, you have a gem.
I don't like Grant, but Rivendell has a good article for proper sizing for non-racing cyclists that I agree with. To each their own.
Also - do a search. These threads pop up like bed bugs in Manhattan.
Most bike shops these days are staffed with mostly idiots, and will try to put you on a frame that is too small with 8-12" of seatpost hanging out. This is supposed to "make the bike handle easier" and "be stiffer". You and I are the same height, so depending upon leg length, etc. you'll likely want something near 58-60 cm for road and 21-23 in for mountain. It's a virtual guarantee that a shop will try to get you on a 55-56 road or 18-19 mountain bike. The penalty is that your handlebars will be too low -- unless you prefer it this way, in which case go for it.
If you find a LBS that caters to all riders, or mostly non-racing cyclists, you have a gem.
I don't like Grant, but Rivendell has a good article for proper sizing for non-racing cyclists that I agree with. To each their own.
Also - do a search. These threads pop up like bed bugs in Manhattan.
At 5'8", pretty much all of them recommended I go with 19" and two even suggested I try a 20.5 though didn't take long to realize 20.5 is too big (top tube was too long on both models). All of them got me properly sized bikes to try even though I wasn't sure whether I wanted 17.5 or 19.
Bikes with sloping top tubes will end up having more seat post sticking out. Hybrids and mountains tend to have steeper sloping tubes.
10-08-11 | 06:53 PM
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Better listen to this guy...he's been in all of the tens of thousands of LBS's in the world,so he knows that "MOST" of them purposely put you on ill fitting bikes because they don't give a crap about the bread and butter of their business...just the Lance wannabe's
Still a fail though -- I don't think they purposely midlead, I just think they're mostly idiots.
Note that you offered no advice to the OP and just replied to my post. Nicely done.
OP: Road bikes are probably the most common bike I see going back and forth around here as commuters. They work fine and a lot of people love them -- just not me. I like fenders, super-low gears for pulling a cargo trailer, wider tires, and racks....all of which road bikes really suck at....well, gearing can be done with a parts swap.
It's just a matter of how to like to ride and how obsessed you want to get. Another thing I would encourage you to do is to learn how to do your own work. This is a great way to save money, make your own modifications, and it's great to be able to fix your stuff on the road.
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10-08-11 | 08:17 PM
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Hello there Oronare!
If I were you, I wouldn't overlook the road bikes. They're swift and agile. Their dropbars offer you more selections in riding postures. They can be extremely aerodynamic when riding in a more aggressive riding position, or you can sit up erect and ride them as a comfort bike. You have by far more choices in a road bike than a hybrid bike, provided than you're riding almost exclusively on paved surfaces. You also have the choice of selecting a road/touring bike that looks more like a road bike, but comes complete with fenders, splash guards, and perhaps a rack. However nonetheless, it's still a road bike.
Are you presently located within the UK?
- Slim
If I were you, I wouldn't overlook the road bikes. They're swift and agile. Their dropbars offer you more selections in riding postures. They can be extremely aerodynamic when riding in a more aggressive riding position, or you can sit up erect and ride them as a comfort bike. You have by far more choices in a road bike than a hybrid bike, provided than you're riding almost exclusively on paved surfaces. You also have the choice of selecting a road/touring bike that looks more like a road bike, but comes complete with fenders, splash guards, and perhaps a rack. However nonetheless, it's still a road bike.
Are you presently located within the UK?
- Slim
Yep, currently in the North West. down the A59 into Preston city centre. (It comes out to be around 6 miles)
Cheers.
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10-08-11 | 08:56 PM
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Actually,the entire post was advice to the OP,telling him that not everyone here would give the best advice. Granted,it was implied (pretty strongly),I was using your rant as an example. There wasn't much meat (advice) in your post,and that was my point,it was more a vent on your own frustrations than advice to him (
about the sorry service you've indured).And the last sentance,was direct advice to the OP..."If they don't fit you properly to a bike,go elsewhere...".
I do apologise for making this point at your expense...but you made it kinda easy to do,eSPECIALLY with this reply,stating there was no advice given,it kinda proves my point. Fail yourself there
10-08-11 | 09:40 PM
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Alright Oronare!
You'll want a bike that's quite capable of fleet and swift manuevers. You also want to protect yourself from splashed puddles and flying debris. Good! Your fenders are there, just for that very purpose. That way, you can always arrive at your destination unscathed by the elements. You just might want to stop at the local store to pick up a loaf of bread or a 1/2 gallon of milk. Great! You'll have a rack capable of placing panniers over it, just to do that!
Finally, you just might decide to travel to all over the UK for the summer. Nice! You'll own a touring road bike that's equipped, just to do that type of travel in the most relaxed state avaliable to bicycles, the touring posture.
Since you'll have drop handlebars, you can lean forward, grab the lower ends of your bars, and out run the rabid dog with your aggressive posture. Alternatively, you can sit erect while holding onto the horizontals and think of nothing but the cool breeze running through your hair on a hot summer day, as you coast along in a total state of bliss, along the Rochdale Canal, near West Yorkshire.
Oronare, this bike has a frame made of chromoly steel. It will last a lifetime or longer, if you keep it dry. It is not like any other frame material on the market, today. It is truly an investment. You will never ever have to make another bicycle purchase for the rest of your life, after this one.
Here's your most "proper" bike Oronare:
www.raleigh.co.uk/ProductType/ProductRange/Product/Default.aspx?pc=1&pt=14&pg=7536
- Slim
PS.
Enjoy!
You'll want a bike that's quite capable of fleet and swift manuevers. You also want to protect yourself from splashed puddles and flying debris. Good! Your fenders are there, just for that very purpose. That way, you can always arrive at your destination unscathed by the elements. You just might want to stop at the local store to pick up a loaf of bread or a 1/2 gallon of milk. Great! You'll have a rack capable of placing panniers over it, just to do that!
Finally, you just might decide to travel to all over the UK for the summer. Nice! You'll own a touring road bike that's equipped, just to do that type of travel in the most relaxed state avaliable to bicycles, the touring posture.
Since you'll have drop handlebars, you can lean forward, grab the lower ends of your bars, and out run the rabid dog with your aggressive posture. Alternatively, you can sit erect while holding onto the horizontals and think of nothing but the cool breeze running through your hair on a hot summer day, as you coast along in a total state of bliss, along the Rochdale Canal, near West Yorkshire.
Oronare, this bike has a frame made of chromoly steel. It will last a lifetime or longer, if you keep it dry. It is not like any other frame material on the market, today. It is truly an investment. You will never ever have to make another bicycle purchase for the rest of your life, after this one.
Here's your most "proper" bike Oronare:
www.raleigh.co.uk/ProductType/ProductRange/Product/Default.aspx?pc=1&pt=14&pg=7536
- Slim
PS.
Enjoy!
Last edited by SlimRider; 10-09-11 at 12:44 AM.
10-09-11 | 02:04 AM
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Alright Oronare!
You'll want a bike that's quite capable of fleet and swift manuevers. You also want to protect yourself from splashed puddles and flying debris. Good! Your fenders are there, just for that very purpose. That way, you can always arrive at your destination unscathed by the elements. You just might want to stop at the local store to pick up a loaf of bread or a 1/2 gallon of milk. Great! You'll have a rack capable of placing panniers over it, just to do that!
Finally, you just might decide to travel to all over the UK for the summer. Nice! You'll own a touring road bike that's equipped, just to do that type of travel in the most relaxed state avaliable to bicycles, the touring posture.
Since you'll have drop handlebars, you can lean forward, grab the lower ends of your bars, and out run the rabid dog with your aggressive posture. Alternatively, you can sit erect while holding onto the horizontals and think of nothing but the cool breeze running through your hair on a hot summer day, as you coast along in a total state of bliss, along the Rochdale Canal, near West Yorkshire.
Oronare, this bike has a frame made of chromoly steel. It will last a lifetime or longer, if you keep it dry. It is not like any other frame material on the market, today. It is truly an investment. You will never ever have to make another bicycle purchase for the rest of your life, after this one.
Here's your most "proper" bike Oronare:
www.raleigh.co.uk/ProductType/ProductRange/Product/Default.aspx?pc=1&pt=14&pg=7536
- Slim
PS.
Enjoy!
You'll want a bike that's quite capable of fleet and swift manuevers. You also want to protect yourself from splashed puddles and flying debris. Good! Your fenders are there, just for that very purpose. That way, you can always arrive at your destination unscathed by the elements. You just might want to stop at the local store to pick up a loaf of bread or a 1/2 gallon of milk. Great! You'll have a rack capable of placing panniers over it, just to do that!
Finally, you just might decide to travel to all over the UK for the summer. Nice! You'll own a touring road bike that's equipped, just to do that type of travel in the most relaxed state avaliable to bicycles, the touring posture.
Since you'll have drop handlebars, you can lean forward, grab the lower ends of your bars, and out run the rabid dog with your aggressive posture. Alternatively, you can sit erect while holding onto the horizontals and think of nothing but the cool breeze running through your hair on a hot summer day, as you coast along in a total state of bliss, along the Rochdale Canal, near West Yorkshire.
Oronare, this bike has a frame made of chromoly steel. It will last a lifetime or longer, if you keep it dry. It is not like any other frame material on the market, today. It is truly an investment. You will never ever have to make another bicycle purchase for the rest of your life, after this one.
Here's your most "proper" bike Oronare:
www.raleigh.co.uk/ProductType/ProductRange/Product/Default.aspx?pc=1&pt=14&pg=7536
- Slim
PS.
Enjoy!
I have to say, price and all, that looks pretty amazing. I know it is stupid, but the only thing which would put me slightly off is the colour, it seems it only comes in that Green colour. Superficial I know, but still.
10-09-11 | 03:33 AM
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You should not pass judgement, until you've actually seen how really beautiful that bicycle is in real life. The chrome fenders against the earthy color of that chromoly steel frame, makes for an exquisite delight for the eye to behold. The ladies are certain to be impressed!
- Slim
10-09-11 | 04:02 AM
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Commuter bike for a 2x6mile ride in all UK weather with the capacity for some luggage:
You can use flat bar or drop bar, its up to you.
I really like cable disc brakes for UK winter use, they are very reliable and not affected by standing water or mud.
Boardman bikes are readily available, well designed and nicely made. The support from Halfords stores (ubiquitous car parts/bike store) is variable but you can get them from other shops. They do a disc brake hybrid and very nice disc cyclo cross both with rack and fender threaded eyelets.
You need to budget for accessories: lights, fenders (SKS chromolplastic), rack, luggage, lock.
Security is a much harder when you ride a flashy bike
You can use flat bar or drop bar, its up to you.
I really like cable disc brakes for UK winter use, they are very reliable and not affected by standing water or mud.
Boardman bikes are readily available, well designed and nicely made. The support from Halfords stores (ubiquitous car parts/bike store) is variable but you can get them from other shops. They do a disc brake hybrid and very nice disc cyclo cross both with rack and fender threaded eyelets.
You need to budget for accessories: lights, fenders (SKS chromolplastic), rack, luggage, lock.
Security is a much harder when you ride a flashy bike
10-09-11 | 04:08 AM
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Hey Oronare!
Of course, you must know that there are Surly dealers located within the UK. Both the Surly Crosscheck and the Surly Pacer would be excellent choices that will quite easily accept fenders, racks, or a wide range of tire sizes. They are both road/touring bicycles.
The Crosscheck comes in two separate color choices:
https://surlybikes.com/bikes/cross_check
Click on the black bike frame in the square to the right--->
The Pacer comes in only one color:
https://surlybikes.com/bikes/pacer
- Slim
PS.
Surly UK dealers:
https://surlybikes.com/dealers/dealer...ited%20Kingdom
Of course, you must know that there are Surly dealers located within the UK. Both the Surly Crosscheck and the Surly Pacer would be excellent choices that will quite easily accept fenders, racks, or a wide range of tire sizes. They are both road/touring bicycles.
The Crosscheck comes in two separate color choices:
https://surlybikes.com/bikes/cross_check
Click on the black bike frame in the square to the right--->
The Pacer comes in only one color:
https://surlybikes.com/bikes/pacer
- Slim
PS.
Surly UK dealers:
https://surlybikes.com/dealers/dealer...ited%20Kingdom
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10-13-11 | 04:25 PM
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So, I decided to go for the BB, but now I am stuck on models
Just wondering which I would be getting better value for? Is the price difference going to be worth it?
https://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/pro...aspx?&id=15459
https://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/pro...aspx?&id=17421
https://www.drakescycles.co.uk/m1b100...011/RS_GB/9887
https://velospace.org/node/6200 - Here is what I would hopefully be turning it into for the winter months, would the weird sized rims on the Leisure Lakes models be able to accommodate larger, more mountain bikey style tyres? or do I need to go for the 700c model.
Thanks.
Just wondering which I would be getting better value for? Is the price difference going to be worth it?
https://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/pro...aspx?&id=15459
https://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/pro...aspx?&id=17421
https://www.drakescycles.co.uk/m1b100...011/RS_GB/9887
https://velospace.org/node/6200 - Here is what I would hopefully be turning it into for the winter months, would the weird sized rims on the Leisure Lakes models be able to accommodate larger, more mountain bikey style tyres? or do I need to go for the 700c model.
Thanks.
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