Thanks for your reply, basically my mate works in a bike shop and has ordered in the bad boy ultra XL for me, the whole thing has been a bit of a nightmare because Cannondale put a much cheaper chain-set and crank on it, and supplied it with the 2012 combined bar/stem unit which i don't really like, after a while we managed to get them to agree to supply the deore crank set which comes on the 2012 bad boy ultra and the bike shop are going to find an alternative bar and stem for me, I'm reluctant to complicate things further by telling them i need a L instead as they have got rid of all their 2011 stock now. I will go and try the XL on monday and try to compare it to whatever other Cannondales they have in a L. I just wanted to see what the Bad boy Ultra looks like in an XL as i know they always picture the smaller models for aesthetic reasons.