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Old 11-06-11 | 01:35 PM
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Doug5150
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
So at last you have reached the last desperate attempts to shore up an argument, the insult. You realize of course, that said insults negate any wisdom potentially contained in the remainder of your statement.
Well I did offer three options.
Categorizing others wouldn't be big of me.

Let me assure you, I know a lot about this subject, not knowledge gathered from a brief perusal of wikileaks but knowledge, gathered from extraordinary places, for instance having myself elbow deep in the viscera of the obese dying from complications of surgery. ...
I feel a bit silly arguing medicine with a surgeon, but anyway-

Firstly--nobody mentioned gastric/bariatric surgery as a solution to anything,
Secondly--telling fat people to starve themselves thin is not a cure, it is a treatment that completely avoids confronting the cause. Of course the cause isn't known, and that's not your fault--but the point still stands.


Let's play a game: we'll call it "What Causes This?" Everybody get your doctor hats on! Are you ready?

1) What can cause a person to drink too much water?

2) What can cause a person to breathe too much?

3) What can cause a person to shake too much?

4) What can cause a person to talk too loud?

5) What can cause a person to sleep too much?

6) What can cause a person to cough too much?

7) What can cause a person to squint their eyes too much?

8) What can cause a person to weigh too much?

All the above questions are similar, in that they all involve acts that can be controlled consciously--yet any of the first seven is presumed to have a medical cause that can be addressed directly. Obesity is the last medical condition left that is still acceptable to blame entirely on the patient's lack of self-control.

If you look back on the entire history of medical science, it doesn't make any sense at all that people would willingly make themselves suffer with being obese.

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