Why are we still so fat?
#451

The obesity epidemic can be solved very easily. Think about how we solved the problem of how to get people to do more during daylight hours. Altering our schedules wasn't palatable, so we changed the clocks. Just as time problems can be solved by resetting the clocks, weight problems can be solved by resetting the scales.
#452
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From: Rocket City, No'ala
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We're still so fat because we spent all our money on titanium bottle cage bolts so we can't afford our gym memberships and they won't let us walk the mall in our lycra anymore after the "No, I am NOT Jock Boyer" incident.
Yes, it was more important to get the bolts instead of winter tights and gloves. Besides, the slushy snow would get the bike dirty.
Yes, it was more important to get the bolts instead of winter tights and gloves. Besides, the slushy snow would get the bike dirty.
#453
Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.

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From: Washington, DC
Bikes: Some bikes. Hell, they're all the same, ain't they?
We're still so fat because we spent all our money on titanium bottle cage bolts so we can't afford our gym memberships and they won't let us walk the mall in our lycra anymore after the "No, I am NOT Jock Boyer" incident.
Yes, it was more important to get the bolts instead of winter tights and gloves. Besides, the slushy snow would get the bike dirty.
Yes, it was more important to get the bolts instead of winter tights and gloves. Besides, the slushy snow would get the bike dirty.

Here's a guy who just moved to Michigan from Tex-uhs and wants to keep riding for the winter:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...g-Cycling-Bibs
#454
"He must be crazy!"
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From: Hebden Bridge, W. Yorks, UK (Brontë country)
Bikes: Road: Al Cannondale, Steel Basso. MTB: Steel hardtail.
The obesity epidemic can be solved very easily. Think about how we solved the problem of how to get people to do more during daylight hours. Altering our schedules wasn't palatable, so we changed the clocks. Just as time problems can be solved by resetting the clocks, weight problems can be solved by resetting the scales.

These days, we have almost as big a percentage of obese people here in the UK as you do in the USA but a few years back a US size S (Small) would have been a UK M/L (Medium/Large) or an Italian XL (Extra Large)!
It is noticeable how big our clothing sizes have been getting, while the labels still say S, M (whatever).
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Portland Fred
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#457
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From: Rocket City, No'ala
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It's a sad day in the 41 when we can't intentionally get a thread derailed and locked.
Moderators, can we call it a day and lock this thread?
Or do I have to bring out the Leroy Niemans?

gajillion points if you got the "Top Secret" reference
Moderators, can we call it a day and lock this thread?
Or do I have to bring out the Leroy Niemans?

gajillion points if you got the "Top Secret" reference
#458
Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.

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From: Washington, DC
Bikes: Some bikes. Hell, they're all the same, ain't they?
My wife and I went to a Casual Male XL store to see about getting something for her brother, and I couldn't believe that I was too small for everything they had there. That wouldn't have been possible just two years ago.
#459
do you watch tv in the evenings? i simply cut out most of my TV time and ride instead, i've found it much more enjoyable, and much better for my health.
#465
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Indeed - once I get off the bike, I *need* to eat - and the longer/harder I ride, the more I eat. Cycling is as bad for the munchies as weed, for me. I've been fighting the urge (and getting better at it) though. Still can't get the weight off, and I want to lose 20 pounds or so.
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Godbotherer
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From: Hermitage, TN
Bikes: 1986 Cannondale SR300 (full SRAM Apex) 1996 Cannondale R800 (Full SRAM Rival), 1997 Cannondale R200 (Shimano Tiagra), 2012 Cannondale CAAD 10-5, 1992 Bridgestone RB-1 (SRAM Force)
Hell, I'm down 21 since March 5, so. . .
#468
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From: Tryon
Bikes: Trek 1.2 & Single Speed Rain Bike
Whats worked for me is an easy diet. I am not on a diet, I've just changed what I eat.
(bike to work - 7 miles)
Breakfast - 2 eggs
Snack - Greek Yogurt (Plain)
Lunch - Polar bottle of green drink
Snack - Almonds
Snack#2 - Banana before I bike home (7 miles)
Dinner - small portion of either chicken/fish with vegetables and rice.
I do not eat chocolate, cookies or red meat.
42 years old and I've gone from 210 to 172 in a year. (5' 9") - yeah I know above the BMI, but anything below 170lbs and I am sick, I need to work my way down slowly to 160-165.
I bike on average 14 to 16 miles per day depending route and I also go to the gym 3 days a week for weight training.
Its NOT impossible, you just have to have the will power.
(bike to work - 7 miles)
Breakfast - 2 eggs
Snack - Greek Yogurt (Plain)
Lunch - Polar bottle of green drink
Snack - Almonds
Snack#2 - Banana before I bike home (7 miles)
Dinner - small portion of either chicken/fish with vegetables and rice.
I do not eat chocolate, cookies or red meat.
42 years old and I've gone from 210 to 172 in a year. (5' 9") - yeah I know above the BMI, but anything below 170lbs and I am sick, I need to work my way down slowly to 160-165.
I bike on average 14 to 16 miles per day depending route and I also go to the gym 3 days a week for weight training.
Its NOT impossible, you just have to have the will power.
#469
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From: Seattle Area
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People eat poorly, people don't want to learn what to eat, people don't want to be told they can't eat certain things that taste good, and people don't want to take the time to learn how the body works. And, people do like to blame genetics and age because then they can keep eating the crap they eat and make believe that the problem isn't their fault.
And, it's actually insulting to me to have people say I'm thin because of my genetics and I "got lucky".
People still think fat is bad for you and a high carb diet is good. So people will continue to get fat.
And, it's actually insulting to me to have people say I'm thin because of my genetics and I "got lucky".
People still think fat is bad for you and a high carb diet is good. So people will continue to get fat.
Last edited by SuperGregNo1; 04-27-12 at 03:39 PM.
#470
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People eat poorly, people don't want to learn what to eat, people don't want to be told they can't eat certain things that taste good, and people don't want to take the time to learn how the body works. And, people do like to blame genetics and age because then they can keep eating the crap they eat and make believe that the problem isn't their fault.
And, it's actually insulting to me to have people say I'm thin because of my genetics and I "got lucky".
People still think fat is bad for you and a high carb diet is good. So people will continue to get fat.
And, it's actually insulting to me to have people say I'm thin because of my genetics and I "got lucky".
People still think fat is bad for you and a high carb diet is good. So people will continue to get fat.
I can also say that if you go to bed feeling full...guess what..I am always slightly hungry and I monitor my calorie intake and output daily.
#471
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From: San Diego CA
Bikes: 2019 KonaLibre- 2003 Litespeed Vortex -2016 Intense Spider Factory Build -2008 Wilier Mortorolio- Specialized Stumpjumper Hardtail converted to bafang 750 mid drive -1986 Paramount 2014 - --- Pivot Mach 429c
I like beer
I like cookies
I like red meat
I like Biking
I don't like being overweight and need to drop 10 pounds or more to be faster
But I like Beer and cookies and red Meat
I like cookies
I like red meat
I like Biking
I don't like being overweight and need to drop 10 pounds or more to be faster
But I like Beer and cookies and red Meat
#472
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#473
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From: Santa Clarita, CA
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It's easy to be a fat cyclist. Cycling it relatively easy on the body (compared to say running or hockey), and people can do long and fun rides without an extremely high level of fitness. I know many people who can easily ride 120 miles, but it will probably be at 12 miles an hour. I know when I started racing I figured the 5s would be easy. I had been riding for 10 years, and could ride a century. Then I raced. Dropped and lapped within 15 minutes. I learned I had never truly pushed myself. Once I started training properly, I lost 20 lbs.
Same thing doesn't happen in running for instance. Not a whole lot fo fat marathoners or ultra-marathoners out there. It's more a "no cheat" sport in my opinion.
Also consider most peple aren't incorporating much weight training into their programs, likely since the experts on BF say it doesn't do anything. Weight training helps burn fat. Hell just doing some squats and standing military presses would burn a lot of calories.
So basically, a little weight training is good, push harder, and see some results.
Same thing doesn't happen in running for instance. Not a whole lot fo fat marathoners or ultra-marathoners out there. It's more a "no cheat" sport in my opinion.
Also consider most peple aren't incorporating much weight training into their programs, likely since the experts on BF say it doesn't do anything. Weight training helps burn fat. Hell just doing some squats and standing military presses would burn a lot of calories.
So basically, a little weight training is good, push harder, and see some results.
#474
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From: Incheon, South Korea
Bikes: Nothing amazing... cheap old 21 speed mtb
I actually find if I ride longer and slower its easier to keep my weight in check. If I go for speed and power all I do is end up eating way to much after the ride. Long rides at 28-35 kph suit me fine anyway, its not like I'm interested in group riding (at all!) or racing. 
BMI is an odd thing designed for people of a certain size. It doesn't work for me. My calculated ideal weight is 88kg but at 92kg (aside from a little fat around the middle) my entire body is thin. I've never seen my arms so skinny before. I think I need to work in some weight training or I'll have huge leg muscles and not very much else...

42 years old and I've gone from 210 to 172 in a year. (5' 9") - yeah I know above the BMI, but anything below 170lbs and I am sick, I need to work my way down slowly to 160-165.
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