Originally Posted by
indyfabz
What I don't like about them is that they are sort of "floppy" unless they are packed full. The Bike Packer especially.
I use a long bungie that loops from the bottom strut of the rack over the pannier then the clips attach on the other side of the top of the rack. This holds the panniers somewhat flat when empty and helps reduce independent movement of items within the panniers. As good as Ortliebs are this is one area most panniers need a little help.