Originally Posted by Artkansas

How are liberals and atheists ruining your Christmas. Are they coming into your church and stomping on the manger?

Church is where the Christian christmas is. If it is precious to you. Celebrate it. The civil christmas is adapted from pagan holidays with Santa Claus, Reindeer, frenzied shopping, 12 Days of Christmas, Christmas Trees, family get togethers. If you don't like that they are both called Christmas, perhaps the Christians should not have tried to co-opt the pagan holiday and rebrand it.

And then there is calling this time the Holidays. There is good reason for that. This time is not just Christmas. We can also celebrate Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, Winter Solstice, Buddha's Enlightenment Day, and sometimes Ramadan. Don't be a grinch and require that everyone celebrate your holiday. Some of these traditions are older than Christianity. But by in large they all celebrate the good in people, they celebrate hope. They celibrate community. That can't be all bad.

So, happy Buddha's Enlightenment Day (Dec 8) to you!