That's interesting. I have always felt that I was an "outsider," regardless of what group (work, clubs, social gatherings, etc.) I was mixed up with. This group seems to tolerate outsiders to a greater extent than other groups; I think it's because a little eccentricity or curmudgeonliness is almost expected once ya hit 50.

Perhaps there should be a bike forum group for "outsiders" like us. This would be a group where nobody fits in, because if you do, you are no longer part of the group, because you are part of a group, which is the group...

Hmm, "there's only one catch, and that's catch-22..."

L.