Originally Posted by Commodus

It's certainly a fair point you're making. I guess the other side of the fence is something like:

Although many or most of the peloton was doping at the time, to me there are degrees of guilt. A domestique who suddenly finds himself unable to do his job and faces unemployment from a EPO-fuelled peloton, well he gets a pass from me. He didn't start the problem, he isn't propagating it, he's just trying to make his way. Is it wrong? Sure. But it's wrong in the way that a poor guy stealing bread is wrong.

Building yourself into a worldwide phenomenon, branding yourself as a cancer-fighting hero and making millions and millions of dollars while doing your level best to not only dope better than everyone else but actively damaging those trying to make the sport cleaner, well that's something else. For me, and maybe others, it's not so much the doping that evokes the ire.

Of course these are extremes. Lots of grey between.

Take away the wins? Sure, why not? Who care who gets them? The message is, if you dope there are consequences. It doesn't matter who you are. This is the hard line we need to take to make the sport better. It's not fair, but who are we hurting? Lance gave away his right to consideration the moment he retained Dr. Ferrari's exclusive services. Anyways, I don't even think that's on the table. I really don't think the UCI cares anymore.