I tried the level saddle method and it did not work for me so I just adjusted a bit at a time until I found a tolerable spot. I still don't find my saddle very nice for longer distances, but it seems everyone I have asked has a different opinion about what is right. Even had an lbs tell me the way he set it up is correct even though it killed me. Being new again to cycling, I'd love someone with the experience to be able to help me learn about bike set up not just do it and send me on my way. Knowing the mechanics behind it is the interesting part, great thread though, thanks all.