Originally Posted by Camilo

Yea, I guess we have to follow your lead and just have a simple faith that there is actual large durability or strenth differences.

Please, I wasn't questioning that there are differences in construction which is what you seem to be arguing above. I'm a little surprised you didn't understand that from what I wrote since I stated it explicitly that I agree there's differences in constuction.

HOWEVER, back to my question, and please excuse me for being so dense.... You wrote: "The difference in durability (strength) between a Pinarello Dogma and a Chinarello could not be any larger. You don't even have to conduct tests or do research to know this is true."

Again, I do not dispute there's differences in construction. But I just can't imagine how you would know that there is a very large difference in durability and strength, and why you would expect anyone to know this, without some sort of information, data, research, urban legends, stories from the road or forums, whatever you want to call it, backing it up.

Maybe what you intended to say was: "I personally have unshakable faith that the difference in durability (strength) between a Pinarello Dogma and a Chinarello could not be any larger. My personal faith in this does not require that I even have to conduct tests or do research to know this is true."