mrwesson, that nugget of common sense was handed to me by my father long ago and is more in line with what deadserious explains. my father, brothers and i were out aerating cans and making apples sauce with the 1911 and snub 38, to temper my stupidity and contain my cockiness my father said. if you are ever stupid enough to pull the gun, you better be smart enough to shoot the gun or else it will be taken from you and turned against you. i had shortened that quote, shooting an unarmed man has never been an expectable rule.

carelton, these may well be rules written by fanboys, but they have rule number 5. that has been a long standing rule of our design studio. all their other rules are just variations of rule no 5. with the ever increasing population of posers or hipsters or whatever one might call these people rule no is needed more than ever. when i stumbled in here and found the regular usage of HTFU as a reply i stuck around. they are a good laugh, because they have clowns willing to show that they are indeed in need of these rules

thanks for all the the knowledge i have gained here and for the laughs i get from here, this is a worthy forum.