Originally Posted by dog hair
this is not a slam at all, but i asked one of the folks at fetish to compare their carbon frames with something more common, like a kestrel evoke or an OCLV, and the guy told me that fetish was "...more of a boutique bike -- like your colnagos and pinarellos." just thought that was kind of silly.
again, not a slam. in fact, when i was looking for a carboluminum frame, i seriously considered their dirigente model. they make some good-looking stuff.
Yeah Fetish is trying to market their stuff like the Colnago type boutique bikes..and doing so very unsuccessfully. It's hard to market yourself as a "limited production" high class bike, when you dump every model you have on ebay for wholesale pricing.
The frames are all decent (including the the carbon frames), but their sales practices are not ideal for what they seem to want to achieve.
The way they have their frames "dumped" on ebay basically chases away retailers who want to sell the frames. They have their frames sold on ebay often times cheaper than retailers can buy from them wholesale (this is why we are not stocking Fetish frames anymore). When we as retailers can buy cheaper on ebay than from Fetish directly, there is no point.
That being said though, for the end customer...its great.
As far as Fetish vs. Leader...They are both made in Taiwan, but Fetish frames are much nicer, even at the lowest model (SAC).