Originally Posted by
JesusBananas
I would assume that the average personal owner measures the bike complete, otherwise that would be totally cheating.

Well... of course to present you bike weight to somebody without pedals is a cheating... but when manufacturer claims its MTB is 23.5, of course i will check him (manufacturer)..and only then will install pedals, usefull tires and riser handlebars.. that will increase the weight to 26 lbs..