Originally Posted by hhnngg1

[Edited for brevity]... Even group rides are an example of this - by riding with stronger riders, you're getting feedback on the kind of power to put up to stay in a range of improvement. It's really very similar to training with a powermeter, just with a human in place to push you (which is usually better, I agree.)

Those who just say 'screw the technology just HTFU and ride with faster riders"... are actually espousing the same exact principles the techie guys are advocating.