Originally Posted by
mrrabbit
So let me get this straight...
You have all the information in the world you need, plus pros and cons...all you have to do is hit the "compute" button and get with building the wheel...
And at the same time you want to tell us what to say to you and what not to say to you...
That's like telling someone to help you - but you have to help them THEIR way.
One word: arrogance
=8-)
Technically we all have all the information in the world by having internet access, doesn't mean we all know how to sort through and interpret it. And there is no compute button for this. No spoke length calculators take into consideration using abstract patterns or different holed hubs/rims.
I layed out that I already know the pros and cons of doing it this way and don't need anyone trying to tell me about them, to stop some of the unneeded banter that often happens on bike forums. But I clearly said I was very open to other ideas if somebody had better lacing patterns or ones that used a few less spokes even. Specifically I needed the math help, making sure I plugged the correct numbers in correctly.
Originally Posted by
FBinNY
My advice is fairly simple, but based on sort of a catch-22. Inferring from your post, I'll venture that you lack the experience (or maybe just the confidence) to tackle a tricky lace pattern, or analyze the implications.
So my advice is to build a straight 36h wheel. Since you're not heavy, you can reduce the amount of spoke by using lighter spokes rather than fewer spokes. You'll end up with an easier to build, lighter wheel which will serve you better over the long haul.
One advantage of 36h is that there's very short spans between spokes at the rim. That allows for lighter rims, and provides form precise aligning, and correcting of variations in the rim. If you drop to 28h, the spans increase, so you'll need a stiffer (heavier) rim, and will some degree of precise control of rim alignment.
Or if you really want 28H, consider the old KISS approach and spring for a 28h hub.
The Wheel I'm replacing is a 3 leading 3 trailing that I built myself 2 years ago. I'm not worried about being able to lace the wheel, it's quite easy. It is true I don't understand all the technical aspects that go into designing a lacing pattern or making sure forces are equal on both sides of the hub and rim, which is why I'm using a lacing pattern from a site I trust.
I don't want another 36h wheel, I don't need it. I could go out and buy a 16 spoke front wheel and likely not need to true it more than twice a year because like I said, I take good care of my things and I'm not heavy. Now I don't want to be that extreme, but a nice middle ground would be great.
As far as replacing the hub, it's a dura ace hub which for one doesn't come in anything but 36h and 32h, and two it's expensive while inversely my budget is small. And I love my loose ball bearings in it. I get far more pleasure/satisfaction from being able to take them apart and clean those than i would just replacing a cartridge bearing, so selling the hub via craigslist or something and buying a new cheaper hub would with correct drillings would be tragic.