Originally Posted by
rruff
Quite true... but it isn't necessarily trivial. Sort of like not being able to get a stem that works decently because Reach or Stack are wrong. So another term which represents "setback" of the frame... which might as well be STA, or something similar for TT bikes... should also be considered an essential frame dimension.
Dave makes several good points but honestly rruff, we have already been through this 5 times and what I marked in bold and what I have said repeatedly is the key deficit here for the guys who still don't get it and, it doesn't look like they are going to either.