Thanks, the hanger discusson reminded me to pick up another hanger for my curent bike. I have an emergeny one that looks like it will fit many different bikes, but also might restrict gear options. Fine for a day trip, but not what I'd want to rely on on a long tour. I actually had a freak incident with a broken hockey stick in a patch of high grass ruin my day once so I know they do get broken. And on the GAP this weekend there were tons of sticks and debris from some storms just waiting to swing up and ruin somebody's day or or even week.