Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Are Cioccs frame any good?
what's a good condition, 2nd hand Ciocc Challenger (Dedacciai scandium aluminium), with carbon seat stays worth?
Bloody light: 1224g with no fork, no bolts, no nothin'......weighed it meself.
Is that too light for an 84g masher?
Dude, how many second hand bikes you gunna buy that aren't as good as your Raleigh?
To be honest, my next roadie is probably going to be Scandium. I'm a bit fitter and stronger nowadays, and I have to confess, as a 90kg weakling-masher the steelie isn't as stiff as it could be.
I think the worst thing about the Ciocc is the name. How the heck do you pronounce that?! I think it's 'CH-eeOTCH' with a soft 'i' - somewhere between 'Church' and 'Chotch'. What a mind bender.
Anyway, 2.64lbs is pretty light. I had an Sc road frame for about a week back in the bad old days, and in my size is was 2.8lbs I think. It was frightening. So 2.65 sounds ballpark for your size.
As to how much it's worth, I have no idea. What are they new?