thanks for the thoughtful response. really i'd love to break even in 2 or 3 years. it's really hard to justify 10k for fun. i've got a motorcycle that eats my money for that. but for some reason, i think that i should decide if i want to build more frames after my first, as that will determine the best path. for instance, i don't want to buy a jig and *then* realize i never want to make another frame again...