I must have just under a dozen various incarnations of rain and windbreaker jackets from cheap to not so cheap. Always looking for that perfect item, haven't found it yet there always seems to be one thing that bugs me about each of my jacket. SOOOO in keeping with my OCD I ordered a W/B jacket from JG clothing. I have one of their windbreakers and its a good one very light and works great (its a bit too large) so I ordered a medium in this new jacket hoping the fit is a bit on the roomy side for layering. I shall see. Its gotten great review so I'm hoping its a good one. Price is pretty reasonable and I thought why. Report to follow when I get it.