Originally Posted by
acidfast7
A. Sounds like a really poor implementation.
Yes, at some signals this is sadly the case but it can be improved.
Originally Posted by
acidfast7
B. Natural selection at work. It's also a horrible example for children ... most red lights here have signs that state "Children are watching so don't cross on red."
Waaaa! Think of the children!
And you have a poor understanding of what natural selection means in this kontext.
Originally Posted by
acidfast7
Seriously. Those type of riders make it more dangerous for the people riding correctly and they're a horrible example for the next generation of riders. Everyone on BF should be against people riding in that manner.
Is it really more dangerous? Where I live literally thousands of people are safely going through red lights and stop signs all across the city. Where are the reports that show these cyclists cause death and mayhem by rolling through red lights and stop signs when it is clearly safe to do so?
Bicycles and motorized vehicles are two VASTLY different modes of transportation. They both get you from A to B. That is where the similarities end. I am a firm believer that bicycles do NOT have the same responsibilities as motorized vehicles when it comes to red lights and stop signs. I believe that cyclists can approach these signals SLOWLY, and STOP if needed to allow cross traffic AND pedestrians to cross before proceeding through the red light or stop sign.
I have done that every single day of riding for the past 15 years and have never crashed, collided into a car or pedestrian or another cyclist. I will continue to roll through red lights and stop signs.